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Adrienne

Great post, Jack. I took a class on liberation theology, and I'm interested to hear your take on it.

amba

In this sphere, people should be allowed to be as good or as bad, moral or immoral as they want to be, so long as they respect the rights of others and live up to their civil obligations.

This is a bit of a contradiction, as someone who is "bad" or "immoral" is almost by definition not going to respect the rights of others or live up to their civil obligations. A sexually promiscuous person may be endangering the health or violating the trust of others. An addict will lie, steal, and neglect responsibilities. The trouble with the whole "victimless sin" notion of moral freedom is that we are actually more interdependent than that.

amba

-- which is not to say that GOVERNMENT should legislate morality. It can legislate injury (theft, e.g.). I realize that's your point of separating the realms.

Jack Whelan

Amba: I'm assuming from your second post that you're retracting your first assertion that there's a contracticion, because if there is one, I don't see it.


The whole point is the attempt to establish a principle to definne the concerns proper to the poltical sphere and the cultural sphere. My problem with the relgious right is that many of them want to conflate the cultural and poltical sphere when they talk, as Tom Delay and others have done, of running government according to biblical principles. I'm a big fan of the bible, but it has no authority in the political realm because we are a constitutional democracy, not a theocraccy.

How good or bad someone is should not be a concern legislatures or the police-- until a person's bad behavior violates the rights of others. What we determine to be a criminal violation, a civil violation, or just impolite or rude is a matter to be worked out through the political process in the legislatures.

jammarlibre

Good morning
Thanks for your site.

frankfrankf

You can't separate pease from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom.

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