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Matthew

"After all, isn't government just ordinary citizens pooling their resources to solve problems or to promote the general welfare and quality of life?"

A significant difference between government and citizen cooperatives seems to be the government monopoly on the use of force.

Jack Whelan

Matthew:

The point is that governments only become a problem when the people neglect their responsibility to hold them accountable for abuses. If governments have ceased to serve the interests of the people, they should be thrown out. The problem doesn't lie with the government, but with the people who let the government get away with murder.

I'm not sure what you mean by citizen cooperatives. Is that just another name for militias? If so, that's no solution that I would support, because the rule of law is supreme so long as the government has legitimacy. The police powers of the state are necessary for the enforcement of the law. If there are abuses, then either the police are acting illegally and should themselves be subject to the law or the people should change the law. Militias and vigilantism are symptoms of a failed or failing state.

Otherwise I'm not sure you're right about government monopoly on the use of force. Isn't that the point of the second amendment?

Matthew

Bah. Sorry to drive-by comment. To clarify long after the fact:

No, I don't mean militias. I mean "ordinary citizens pooling their resources to solve problems".

The second amendment was certainly meant to provide the means by which citizens might overthrow a tyrannical government, but it does not provide any exception to the monopoly on the government's use of force. It ensures that I can own a shotgun, but it does not make it legal for me to use my shotgun to force Joe to pay his union dues.

In contrast, all the demands of a government rest on an implicit threat of force. If I don't pay my taxes, a man with a gun comes and takes me to jail.

I just think this might be a significant difference between a government and a group of citizens operating within the context of a government.

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