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forestwalker

Good post (though the article grossly mischaracterizes the vast majority of pro-lifers).

I'm sure you're familiar with Naomi Wolfe's infamous essay that made a similar argument back in '95?

http://www.priestsforlife.org/prochoice/ourbodiesoursouls.htm

Jack Whelan

FW--That's what's so ironic about the Noam Chomsky comment. There are huge swaths of people, including all Catholics who take Church social teaching seriously, that "have a valid moral point to make" precisely because they are serious and consistent in their "concern about poverty and human welfare in their position."

That's what I find so crazymaking about the abortion issue. The whole concept of defending the weakest and most defenseless is a supposedly "left" value. While the motivations are complex, I don't think enough attention is given to the elitist agenda that lies behind the the abortionist movement. To what degree has liberalized abortion been driven, for instance, by the ambitions of women concerned about their and their daughters' corporate careers, on the one hand, or on the other, the fears of rich white people frightened by underclass population growth?

But it doesn't matter because the propagandists have established their narrative in the public imagination. The crazies now take up all the space there, and either you're pro-choice or a religious fanatic. Sane people who want abortion to be the exception rather than the rule have no voice because they are immediately grouped with the crazies. That's certainly reflected in Chomsky's comment.

I wasn't familiar with the Wolfe article. Interesting, and a breath of fresh air which apparently didn't change many minds. But when dealing with the mentality of NARAL, you're dealing with people who are as entrenched as the NRA. Or George Bush in Iraq. Can't give an inch.

forestwalker

Wolf was the source of Clinton's "safe, legal, and rare" rhetoric during his first campaign. This article was a fuller treatment of the idea behind it leading into the second campaign. She was immediately, loudly, and virtually unanimously condemned by her fellow feminists when it was published in New Republic. She's still regarded with deep suspicion because of it.

And I don't understand the pro-Choice elite's resistance to such a sane argument. If they were to adopt the ideas and rhetoric Wolf proposes here the re-criminalization of abortion would become impossible virtually overnight. I honestly try to be charitable when speculating on their motivations and soul-quality; but I have to admit that it's tough to do so. I've always thought their slogans were just a legal strategy, that they couldn't possibly believe their own rhetoric. The more I listen and read from them the harder it is to maintain that generosity.

Chomsky's comment is off, sure. I was commenting on the review's author's aside about pro-lifers, though. Willfully ignorant and hateful.

To the post's larger point, abortion was just the issue that first led me to start questioning the rationality mythos. Once that chink in the cultural armor was recognized I began seeing more and more. We're not allowed to see what abortion is. We're not allowed to see what war does. We're not allowed to see the poverty of our neighbors. We're not allowed to see where our food comes from or what it actually is. We're not allowed to see the damage that our gross over-consumption wrecks on our world and neighbors. We're neither the free actors nor the rational actors we're told we're believed to be. There's obviously a great deal of self-delusion going on. But when we stop listening and start looking it also quickly and painfully becomes clear that we are being lied to.

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