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Anonymous

I used the term "postmodern catholicism" this week in queries to publishers concerning a book ive written about how and why I say the rosary. I searched the term "postmodern catholicism" on the internet and this is the only mention of it ive found. Thank You for making me feel I am in good company here in the desert of the Real presence of the Eucharist. Keep the faith.

lickona

If the Church doesn't matter, why is the Pope on the cover of Time? Why does the press (and Congress) pay attention when the bishops comment on health care reform? Why does the NYT devote a month in both op-eds and reportage to covering the Church's scandals? Why was JPII able to pressure the Soviet Union just by visiting his native Poland? Here and elsewhere, I get what you're saying, but I think you overstate your case. The Church matters.

"The Church is most at the service of the world where it provides a space and the resources for people who seek to effect that reintegration." Again, I get what you're saying, but I would argue that the Church is most at the service of the world where it follows Christ and points the way to Him. If you write about the Church's activity without writing about Christ, I think that increases the danger of seeing a division between its dogma ("heavy-handed pedagogy") and its engagement with the inner man and his condition as sundered from both self and God.

More to say, but I have to help a neighbor with a stalled car. Final note - I'm not trying to pick a fight, but to start a conversation!

Jack

lickona--I welcome the conversation, and I don't think we disagree in substance. I'm not arguing that the Church doesn't matter to a lot of people. Obviously it does. My point is that it doesn't matter in the way it used to, and that's ok. Its official imagination of itself as somehow integral to high western civilization is not not essential for its mission, and most conservatives I have a quarrel with lament that the Church no longer has that mission, and feels the world is poorer, more decadent place as a result. I disagree.

I see the Church's primary function is transcultural and sacramental. The only essential role for the church is to celebrate the mass everyday everywhere. Everything else is secondary, and the problem is that very often, a part of that everything else is destructive and undermines its essential mission, which is to be a resource, that is, an infusion point for the grace that effects, through human actors, the gradual transformation of the world, i.e., the renewal of the face of the earth.

The Church has been this resource through the centuries and in being that it has provided the context for the development of great saints and profound wisdom. Those saints and that wisdom have flourished more often than not despite the institution and its managers than because of them. The Church insofar as it still operates with a medieval/Constantinian imagination of itself gets in its own way and prevents itself from being what it the world needs it to be.

The reintegration about which I speak, and which is probably clearer from other posts I've written, has to do with the restoration of the shattered human image--that image to which Genesis refers in describing humans as created in the image and likeness of God. Christ is that image in its perfection, and as such he is a concrete realization of what we will become "like" if we effect this reintegration of the shattered image. The goal of reintegration is to become like Christ. He is the uncreated divinely human, as we aspire to become the created divinely human. See my post about Theosis here for a little more on this: http://afterthefuture.typepad.com/afterthefuture/2007/12/disembedded-hum.html

See also "Cosmogenesis" here http://afterthefuture.typepad.com/afterthefuture/2006/01/cosmogenesis_i.html

lickona

Thanks for the reply. I'll read those posts you mention before saying any more. Pleasure to meet you.

Jack Whelan

Pleasure to meet you as well.

It's interesting to me that so few Catholics have been attracted to this site. I've had thoughtful evangelicals and orthodox correspondents, but with two exceptions, rarely any Catholics. Not sure why. So I welcome any challenge or contribution of any sort you and other interested Catholics might want to provide.

I see what I'm doing as profoundly orthodox, but in a way that seeks to be adjusted to a world that is no longer modern. Most people are living in what that quirky Catholic Marshall McLuhan called the rear-view mirror perception of reality. We all do it, me included, but my blog is an attempt not to, because I believe that the essence of the Christian impulse is forward looking, future oriented, disposed toward non-complacent displacement, living primarily in the hope of impossible promises yet to be fulfilled.

Conservatives IMO haven't figured out there's nothing to conserve anymore. That doesn't mean that there isn't much that is valuable that must be retrieved.

JOB

This is the truest thing one can say today:

"Conservatives IMO haven't figured out there's nothing to conserve anymore. That doesn't mean that there isn't much that is valuable that must be retrieved."

I think they'll be getting crankier and crankier as the days go by - until they do figure this out.

Furthermore, they'll figure out that the only things WORTH conserving will be found WITHIN the walls of Rome.

Which is why, to borrow a coinage from a friend of mine, Catholics - at least the "conservative" brand that you refer to (vs. the Commonwegisterica sort who like the grooviness but can do without the dogma crap) - ought to refer to themselves as eschatarians...

Nice blog.

JOB

Jack Whelan

Job--Is there anything anywhere in the Roman Catholic world that is "groovy"? Just asking.

I'm not on board with the walls of Rome analogy. Are you excluding the traditions of the various eastern orthodox churches? I suspect that we "Romans" have more to learn from them, than they from us. But that's a discussion for another day.

I am a "Roman" Catholic, but I'd put the accent on the Catholic and deemphasize the Roman part. In fact, I hope the "Roman" part falls by the wayside at some point, and we start calling ourselves something like Nicene Catholics. It emphasizes the universalism implied in the word Catholic and the common ground emphasized in all the Christian trinitarian traditions.

I see the 'Christ event' as a transcultural in its essence, and as such an infusion of a superabudnance of grace into the world, and that grace is available everywhere and to everyone. Understanding its source isn't nearly so important as whether the disposition of a person's will is open and responsive to that grace, and I daresay there are many professed atheists who live lives in openness and response to that grace whether they know it or not, and they do it better than the typical scared, uptight dogmatist.

There's a reason that sinners and non-intellectuals responded more readily to Christ in the gospels than the learned and dogmatically correct Pharisees and Sadducees. There seems to be a direct correlation between the certainty that you're right about something and the capability to see the truth that's standing right in front of you. The sinners in the gospels weren't burdened with certainty about being right about anything. That lack of certain seems to be a precondition for actually "experiencing" the truth.

I think there has been far too much emphasis on belief as "correct thinking", as if there is some special virtue in assenting to implausible propositions, as if knowing the secret formula is the guarantee of your salvation. That's a form of prmitive gnosticism.

I've found my way to believe in those implausible propositions, but far more important than the head trip is the heart trip and the will trip--Are you open to the movement of grace in your life, and do you act in response to it? Nothing else in the final analysis matters.

But developing a narrative that speaks to the post-secular cultural milieu is an important part of the "Nicene Catholic" mission going forward. That's the question I'm grappling with, and it's something I discuss in a post I put up today. Check it out if this interests you: http://afterthefuture.typepad.com/afterthefuture/2010/06/the-postsecularist-age.html

ted

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Karen

This is great, really.

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