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shazam

I think there are two points to be made about your critique. First, the kind of ‘mood-relativism’ you seem to put forward in the last two paragraphs just isn’t the view that Kelly and Dreyfus articulate. Second, they believe they have a kind of answer for the kind of responsibility and autonomy that you seem to demand of the political beings that we are: this is their meta-poiesis.

The first point is thus. Though there might be many different ‘attunements’ or ‘moods’ within a culture – these are nourished and nurtured moods that everyone in the culture will recognize, even if any particular individual is not what you might think of as ‘avatars’ or instigators of such moods. It’s not that everyone responds to just one god, or one mood. To the extent that anything shows up as an attunement, it does so because it is a possibility of understanding the world that has been created by and sustained by a culture.

Second, Dreyfus and Kelly want to elaborate on a certain meta-cognitive skill (though ‘cognitive’ might not be the right word to use in this situation) that allows for identification and flagging of situations where rising up and experiencing a mood just isn’t appropriate. This meta-poiesis is a cultivated skill – gained presumably through good education, and from gathering a good group of individuals around you. When we have this built in ‘loop’, we should be able to recognize when rising with the spirit of an occasion just isn’t appropriate – and indeed is something that we should rally against. Think of the Hitler rallies they speak of.

Jack Whelan

Shazam--

Thanks for the response. I appreciate your taking the time.

I think I understand what you're saying. But I'm still worried. Someone who was well brought up in the segregated south might very well think that participating in a lynching was doing god's work. And so one has to ask what is the basis for the meta-cognitive skill that would give him the cognitive capability to recognize such behavior was wrong. Either there is something innate in the human being that knows the good, which gets you back to the Platonic position or some idea of natural law, or there has to be some penetration of ideas of universal good that come from outside the system.

I'd argue that the phenomenon of people in Egypt and Libya demanding democracy and their rights comes from a transcultural idea of the Good that awakens that desire for the good in everyone of good will who encounters it.

Common sense requires a standard by which you can evaluate mature moral development and which could confidently judge that slavery is wrong, human sacrifice is wrong, and Helen was an immature flake for running off with Paris if she hadn't the capability to know what would follow. I don't think it's misunderstanding the cultures that promoted these practices, it's judging them rightly primitive or just flat out wrong.

I still like my henotheism idea. I like to hear why you think it won't work.

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