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JP

There isn't enough of a potential market for fascism because the youth cohort to whom it would appeal isn't large enough.

The generational stars can't align that way at the moment.

It's simply not a risk anytime in the near future. The neoconservatives are fading and the wars are being wound down.

The South is being the South, but that's about it. There's no risk in America that I can see. Just a lot of rhetorical sound and fury, meaning nothing because there's no driver behind it.

Jonathan

Aren't transcendence-seekers by definition neither forward-looking nor backward-looking? If there's no future in nostalgia, there's no future in utopianism either.

JP

"Aren't transcendence-seekers by definition neither forward-looking nor backward-looking? If there's no future in nostalgia, there's no future in utopianism either."

The problems with the utopians tends to be a complete ignorance of human nature.

We should be working toward a purpose, and that purpose should be "utopian" in nature, meaning tending toward "heaven on earth" however, it needs to be grown over time rather and in line with actual reality than "built in a generation" by "breaking some eggs to make an omlet".

Jack Whelan

Utopianism makes the error of assuming that one's fantasy future is a "program" worth fighting for. The future is something we move into step by step as either a response to grace or as a refusal of it. History is the evolution of the way these countercurrents play out.

There are things worth fighting for, and we fight for them in a spirit of hope, but we make our fight in a context defined by what is given here and now, in this moment and in this place, not in the context of some fantasy future which is "no place." We make choices in concrete historical circumstances, not abstract ones.

Ultimately we fight to preserve a human future, and the purpose of this blog has been from the beginning to think through what that means, and I do it in an open-ended spirit, one in which I am sniffing my way step by step, not in a Jacobin spirit of thinking I know better: Get on the bus or get run over by it. But whatever happens in biotechnology in the next century, the essence of the human being as a creature open to transcendence will always define his essence. And any developments that seal him off from transcendence will dehumanize him.

Perhaps a human cyborgian future is a possibility, but doubt it. Nevertheless, one of the most interesting themes in the more recent Battlestar Gallactica was its proposing that the machines, the cylons, were in fact open to transcendence in this sense, that they were in fact monotheists. It also plays with the idea that we humans are a technical creation of some earlier humans' who lived live in another galaxy and colonized earth. Who knows? All this has happened before, so to say.

I am not closed to the possibility that the humans we are now can use our technical knowledge to develop a better version of ourselves, but there would have to be a lot of things in place that are not in place now for that to happen in a deeply "human" way. In our current decadence, we do not have the spiritual or moral resources to effect choices that would make use of our technology in a positive way. But while unlikely any time soon, that could change. We could have a transforming 'renaissance' moment, and after it, things could look quite different, and possibilities hidden from us now could come into view.

Jack Whelan

On another more here and now theme that relates to this post, the reaction to RGIII's knee injury in the Redskins' game against the Seahawks has been interesting to me. See this piece by David Zirin in the Nation to sum it up:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/172056/rgiii-and-crisis-liberalism-united-states#

There are so many worlds crashing into one another here. There is the warrior world of the athlete where virtue is defined by disregard for one's safety and security. I haven't heard any athlete or coach say it was wrong to keep him in the game. There's the safety-minded bourgeois world of sports writers and fans, who think that Shanahan was mean for caring about winning more than caring about the health and safety of his player. There is the capitalist world of the owner who is being criticized for being too cheap to provide a decent field and so jeopardizes his own assets.

And nobody's talking about all the people who would be criticizing both Shanahan and RGIII if in fact he was taken out of the game before he blew out his knee, and the Redskins went on to lose. Then all the bourgeois writers would be asking for both of their scalps for being such wimps.

If it were me in Shanahan's place, I'd like to think I'd have enough sense to take him out because he just wasn't effective after the first quarter because of his hurt, but not yet blown out knee, but given the warrior mentality that dominates that world, that would have been difficul. And I have to say that I admire RGIII for not calculating what was in his personal career interests by risking his knee in the way he did. Most of the blame lies with Snyder. That field was a national embarrassment. It's taken down three star players--Adrian Peterson, RGIII, and a star Seahawk player, Chris Clemmons, on Sunday. They should all take off their warrior hats now and put on their\ bourgeois capitalist ones now and sue him.

JP

" But whatever happens in biotechnology in the next century, the essence of the human being as a creature open to transcendence will always define his essence. And any developments that seal him off from transcendence will dehumanize him.

Perhaps a human cyborgian future is a possibility, but doubt it."

There are certain technologies that could potentially be developed that are somewhat problematic.

The immortality project of the technological utopians is analogous to what Tomberg was talking about with respect to reincarnation in his Meditations.

I haven't seen the technological utopians making any progress on this front and I'm not about to help them.

They are completely missing the point of what they are trying to do, which is just fine with me. As long as they are going down the wrong path, they won't get to where they want to go.

The entire cyborg issue is kind of amusing because I have a pretty good sense of the issues involved.

The biotech revolution is most helpful in *healing* problems as opposed to *engineering* new technology. Let's clean up the genome and go from there.

We *know* what we are doing with respect to that. Healing certain genetic conditions is clearly good, so we need to work in that direction.

geciktirme spreyi

The biotech revolution is most helpful in *healing* problems as opposed to *engineering* new technology. Let's clean up the genome and go from there.

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